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SAGA in action, one of my favorites, Neo!

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nice, thanks.

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Awesome post! It gave me a lot of insights! Thanks Neo!

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Aug 15Liked by Neo Kim

Your explanation mainly caters to the audience who are already aware of SAGA. It would be great if you can go in depth considering newbies. This will really help.

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thanks again, I'll improve my writing skills.

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Aug 15Liked by Neo Kim

Hey neo, I agree with Zdravko. The current explanation is quite vague or incomplete. Please try to cover things in depth.

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hey Rajat, thanks - I'm happy to receive your feedback.

I'll try to include more details in future articles.

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I love SAGA pattern. The great post.

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thanks

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I tried explaining E-commerce example with a flowchart, https://whimsical.com/saga-pattern-in-e-commerce-order-process-X1k3yx3tMaCdQNRzTLrTP4 The No path represents the compensating transactions in action.

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Your story-telling way of writing technical blogs always amuses me. I am a huge fan of your articles. They always inspire me to deep dive into system design.

I have a proposal for you. I am interested in translating your blogs into Bangla in my free time. Would you please give me permission? It would help a lot of Bangladeshi developers who are weak in English.

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I didn't understand where does the name "SAGA" come from?

I also didn't understand - what are these "compensation transactions" instead of the rollbacks of transactions?

To me, the whole article is a TL;DR; and I didn't learn anything from it.

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The name Saga comes from the white paper named "Sagas". https://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/cs711/2002fa/reading/sagas.pdf

Also thanks for asking about it, I included it in the references section.

Saga is a design pattern, so you can use it with components (microservices, databases).

And the databases used doesn't have to be SQL, instead it could be NoSQL.

So there's a chance that rollback transaction isn't supported by some databases.

I'm sorry to read this article didn't help you, what information do you think would have helped you better understand it?

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Thanks for adding the reference. I think you need to describe what the compensation transaction is exactly and give an example. The current explain is quite vague. I.e. I don't understand what does it mean for one transaction to compensate another transaction.

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The author of the article does not need to describe nor explain what saga is or what compensation transaction is because this is not what this article is about. The article is about introducing readers to the architecture behind the scene. Neo has since added links for people who are interested in learning more can have a starting point.

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Jul 5Liked by Neo Kim

Yes, the author can do whatever he likes, however he likes. And what I'm saying is that I got disappointed that while reading the article, I didn't get the solution. Thus it looked like a click bait article to me.

The author could've just said - "Halo used the Saga pattern. References: ...". In which case I would've been OK by just providing the references. But the author took his time to write down part of the explanation of what the saga pattern is about. And since he took his time to do that, I took my time to write down that the explanation was partial and I didn't get the explanation.

However, I am glad that he provided a lot of references and I'm going through them at the moment. The references are explaining quite well what the saga pattern is. The references also lead to other quite useful articles.

Once I'm done with reading the references I might add a better comment. My comment was solely about the article itself.

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